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Re: [Rfced-future] WGLC Review of the draft

Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter@stpeter.im> Tue, 04 January 2022 21:33 UTC

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On 1/4/22 2:18 PM, Eric Rescorla wrote:
> Well, it's not an *additional* bullet but rather a replacement bullet, I 
> think.

That sounds right.

> I think this also still leaves the question of whether it's exhaustive.

IIRC, in our original discussion this was intended to be exhaustive. 
Personally (no editor hat on) I've only ever been ~90% comfortable with 
that, but I can certainly live with it.

Peter

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