Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives
Jean-Marc Valin <jmvalin@mozilla.com> Wed, 27 November 2013 21:57 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 11/27/2013 04:39 PM, Silvia Pfeiffer wrote: > Could we please include also: All entities MUST implement at least > two of {VP8, H.264 CBP, Theora} In practice, how does this differ from the option of having Theora as the single MTI? Jean-Marc > Thanks, Silvia. > > On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> > wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 27, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Gaelle Martin-Cocher >> <gmartincocher@blackberry.com> wrote: >>> >>> If we proceed with the vote, I would like to see the following >>> choice: All entities must support H263. >>> >>> Thanks Gaëlle >>> >> >> I've updated the wiki to include this as choice 13. If you have >> a reference that we could use that specifies version, annexes, or >> any other additional detail, we can include a pointer. >> >> Ted >> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: rtcweb >>> [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Gaelle >>> Martin-Cocher Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 11:29 AM To: >>> Magnus Westerlund; Emil Ivov Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org Subject: Re: >>> [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection >>> alternatives >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> Sorry for this late message, I was not available this past >>> week. >>> >>> It has been mentioned by a few of us that the risks on VP8 that >>> some can't leave with, can be mitigated when VP8 becomes an ISO >>> standard (via MPEG). VP8 has a chance to become an MPEG >>> deliverable in January. I believe that could make a few of us >>> more comfortable with supporting/mandating both H264 and VP8 >>> and could change the consensus reaching process. >>> >>> Can we give VP8 that chance before forcing a vote? >>> >>> Thanks Sincerely, Gaëlle >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- From: rtcweb >>> [mailto:rtcweb-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Magnus >>> Westerlund Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2013 7:33 AM To: Emil >>> Ivov Cc: rtcweb@ietf.org Subject: Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any >>> additional Video Codec Selection alternatives >>> >>> On 2013-11-27 12:41, Emil Ivov wrote: >>>> Just to confirm, this is NOT the last day of discussion on >>>> whether a vote is the right way to do this at all, right? >>> >>> No, but tomorrow a week will have passed since we chairs sent >>> out the proposal and solicited feedback on the proposal. >>> >>>> >>>> That sounds like it would still be an open question for step >>>> two here: >>>> >>>> http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/rtcweb/current/msg09909.html >>> >>> >>>> As we stated in this message, after the week we chairs would update the >>> process proposal if we considered it necessary. I believe there >>> are some clarifications that needs to be done, including the >>> voter eligibility. >>> >>> After that the stated plan was to hold a consensus call in the >>> WG to use the proposed process. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Magnus Westerlund >>> >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Multimedia Technologies, Ericsson Research EAB/TVM >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> Ericsson AB | Phone +46 10 7148287 >>> Färögatan 6 | Mobile +46 73 0949079 SE-164 80 >>> Stockholm, Sweden| mailto: magnus.westerlund@ericsson.com >>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> rtcweb mailing list rtcweb@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtcweb >>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >>> This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential >>> information, privileged material (including material protected >>> by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or >>> constitute non-public information. 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- [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec … Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Magnus Westerlund
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Paul Giralt
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Gaelle Martin-Cocher
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Gaelle Martin-Cocher
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Martin Thomson
- [rtcweb] Adding additional text to to all options Frode Kileng
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Mo Zanaty (mzanaty)
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Bjoern Hoehrmann
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Mo Zanaty (mzanaty)
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Hutton, Andrew
- Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Co… Gaelle Martin-Cocher
- [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process for t… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… Silvia Pfeiffer
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… cowwoc
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… Emil Ivov
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… SM
- Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process f… cowwoc