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Re: [rtcweb] Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives

cowwoc <cowwoc@bbs.darktech.org> Wed, 27 November 2013 22:57 UTC

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On 27/11/2013 5:39 PM, Bjoern Hoehrmann wrote:
> * Silvia Pfeiffer wrote:
>> On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 9:31 AM, Bjoern Hoehrmann <derhoermi@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> * Magnus Westerlund wrote:
>>>> Today (27th November) is the last day to propose any additional
>>>> alternatives for the Video Codec Selection.
>>> I would like to have available the following additional option:
>>>
>>>    All entities MUST support decoding using Theora.
>> So who encodes it? How is that different to option 9?
> There would be no mandatory-to-implement video codec for encoding in
> "this" version of the specification should this option be selected.

This sounds like a cross-cutting concern that should be extracted from 
voting options (otherwise we'll end up with endless permutations). I 
think we could replace "MUST support X" with "MUST decode X" for all 
options and obviously implementations MUST encode at least one of the 
formats being decoded. Do we really need to specify which formats get 
encoded?

Gili

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