Re: [rtcweb] Why voting is not a viable process for the IETF (Was: Last day for any additional Video Codec Selection alternatives )

Bernard Aboba <> Thu, 28 November 2013 21:40 UTC

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> > This is a legal and political question.
> Exactly the kind of questions that the IETF does NOT handle.
[BA] Indeed.  Legal questions are handled in the courts, political questions are handled within legislatures/parliaments (or in the case of a monarchy/dictatorship by the dictator or monarch).  Last time I looked, the IETF was neither a court nor a legislative body (nor within the jurisdiction of a specific monarch or dictator). 
So I fail to see how the outcome of this proposed vote could be expected to convince someone who is concerned about legal/IPR issues that their concerns have been addressed.  Is legal counsel expected to view the outcome and say "I had concerns relating to the IPR/licensing risks of <insert codec here> but now that the IETF RTCWEB WG has concluded its voting process, I realize that my concerns were merely the invention of an over-active legal mind!" 

> The rules that have been presented basically sound like: "here are the people that we think will produce the result we are looking for"
[BA] I am SHOCKED, SHOCKED that such a thing could be going on here!