Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID for protocol multiplexing

"Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)" <Raju.Makaraju@alcatel-lucent.com> Wed, 05 February 2014 21:32 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID for protocol multiplexing
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> > I believe that Firefox is the browser that does that.  At the last
> > IETF, I think we agreed that it's a temporary fix at best while we
> > wait until this problem is solved at the SCTP layer and not above it.
[Raju] Using NDATA I believe.

> >
> > I'm not aware of any native clients that use this technique, unless
> > there are native clients that use Firefox's code.   Perhaps there are;
> > I just don't know of any.
> >
> > In any case, it's not part of the standard, and I think the plan is
> > that it won't be needed long-term.
> As discussed in the last IETF meeting, this PPID based fragmentation and
> reassembly
> will be removed from the ID.
[Raju] Can I then assume the reason for such removal is the availability of NDATA (http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-stewart-tsvwg-sctp-ndata-03) sooner than later, which will make such PPID based fragmentation/reassembly immediately obsolete?

[Raju] -Raju