Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID for protocol multiplexing

Paul Kyzivat <pkyzivat@alum.mit.edu> Thu, 06 February 2014 16:26 UTC

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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID for protocol multiplexing
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On 2/6/14 3:45 AM, Michael Tuexen wrote:
> On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:36 AM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>>>>> As discussed in the last IETF meeting, this PPID based fragmentation and reassembly will be removed from the ID.
>>>>
>>>> I assume the associated PPID values will also be un-registered with IANA?
>>> I guess they will stay... They are supported by Firefox and PPIDs are a pretty cheap resource. They are from a pool of 32-bit entities. That is why we registered the values before the RFCs get published.
>>
>> So, does that mean my WebRTC entity has to support them, in case the remote peer is on Firefox?
> I don't think so. Not sure what the plan for Firefox is, but I expect Firefox to change the
> code as soon as the final solution is specified.
>>
>> Also, if they are removed from the data channel draft, what reference will be used in the IANA table?
> I think it will stay. For PPIDs you even don't have to have an RFC. You can even register PPIDs
> as a person.

I hope that if values are retained simply for backward compatibility 
they are explicitly marked as deprecated.

	Thanks,
	Paul