Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID for protocol multiplexing
Michael Tuexen <Michael.Tuexen@lurchi.franken.de> Thu, 06 February 2014 20:47 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID for protocol multiplexing
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On Feb 6, 2014, at 9:35 PM, Christer Holmberg <christer.holmberg@ericsson.com> wrote: > > Hi, > >>>>> I hope that if values are retained simply for backward compatibility they are explicitly marked as deprecated. >>>> My plan was just not to defined what they are used for... >>> >>> I would like to have some explanation text. Having registered values without any kind of explanation is not a good approach, in my opinion. >> The reason why I registered them is that they are used by Firefox and there was >> the possibility that the PPID based fragmentation and reassembly got >> standardised. I wanted to avoid the case that Firefox uses some values >> and other protocols register these values. That would have been pretty >> bad. Since they are a very cheap resource, I just went ahead and "saved" >> the values. > > That is a all good. But, when people wonder 5 years from now, I don't want them to have to look for this e-mail in oder to get an explanation :) Understood. But do you think they walk through the IANA registry? I would expect them to read RFCs and follow the procedures described there. Best regards Michael > > Regards, > > Christer > >
- [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID for p… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Peter Thatcher
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Michael Tuexen
- [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCWEB D… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: message interle… Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Martin Thomson
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Michael Tuexen
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB Data Channel: Usage of PPID f… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] PPID, UTF-16 and DOMString (Re: RTCW… Makaraju, Maridi Raju (Raju)