Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use
Roman Shpount <roman@telurix.com> Thu, 05 January 2012 03:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use
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On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 8:35 PM, Bernard Aboba <bernard_aboba@hotmail.com>wrote: > [BA] An alternative is to force an initial offer preferring RTP/SAVP(F). > That way, if both endpoints support SRTP and the offered key management > scheme, it is guaranteed to be negotiated. Only if the preferred option is > not mutually supported could an alternative be selected. > > I would actually prefer a situation where a deliberate decision by application developer is required to allow RTP. By default, SRTP only connection should be accepted with no option to bid down (ie offer with RTP/SAVP(F) only and no null codec). If developer specifies that non-secure connections are allowed, only then RTP/AVP should be present in the offer or accepted in the answer (with crypto attributes or some other way to specify that AVPS is also supported). This way there no "accidental" RTP connections. _____________ Roman Shpount
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- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Roman Shpount
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- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Ted Hardie
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- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Roman Shpount
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- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Bernard Aboba
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- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Roman Shpount
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- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Bernard Aboba
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Eric Rescorla
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Bernard Aboba
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- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Justin Uberti
- Re: [rtcweb] SRTP not mandatory-to-use Roman Shpount
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