Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec
Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Thu, 06 September 2012 00:02 UTC
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From: Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec
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On Wed, Sep 5, 2012 at 4:29 PM, Randall Gellens <randy@qualcomm.com> wrote: > The discussion is over which codecs MUST be supported. Since mandatory > codecs are required, with no choice, they should have the lowest possible > burden to implement, taking into account all aspects of the implementation > burden. Speaking personally, I would put this slightly differently. After all, a codec with low implementation burdens may have very poor bandwidth consumption characteristics, relatively inferior acoustic range, or other problematic aspects which don't read on the implementation burden. As you note below, the overall problem is one of cost/benefit analysis. In the end, we need to find a way to avoid implementation failure with a set of choices that represent the best overall cost/benefit ratio in the contexts identified by our use cases. >Then, implementers are free to consider which additional codecs > they will support, taking into account the costs and benefits. Absolutely. regards, Ted Hardie
- [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Alan Johnston
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Martin Taylor
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ralph Giles
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec stephane.proust
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Martin Taylor
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Cameron Byrne
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Stefan Hacker
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Cameron Byrne
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jim Gettys
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Timothy B. Terriberry