Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec
Tim Panton <tim@phonefromhere.com> Fri, 31 August 2012 19:43 UTC
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Subject: Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec
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On 31 Aug 2012, at 10:25, Mandyam, Giridhar wrote: > In addition, I don't view all use cases as being of equal importance (at least with initial implementations). Conversational voice over cellular must work for WebRTC. All use cases are equal, but some are more equal than others ? I think it is a _huge_ mistake to assume we know what will be important use cases for webRTC. The use case you cite is _very_ well served by adding a tel: url to a mobile web page and placing a 2g gsm call. Tim.
- [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Alan Johnston
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Martin Taylor
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ralph Giles
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec stephane.proust
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Stefan Hakansson LK
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Christer Holmberg
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Martin Taylor
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Timothy B. Terriberry
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randell Jesup
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Cameron Byrne
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Roman Shpount
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Mandyam, Giridhar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Tim Panton
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Gregory Maxwell
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Stefan Hacker
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Cameron Byrne
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Richard Shockey
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Basil Mohamed Gohar
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Sergio Garcia Murillo
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Harald Alvestrand
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jim Gettys
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Randall Gellens
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ted Hardie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Ron
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec John Leslie
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Jean-Marc Valin
- Re: [rtcweb] RTCWEB needs an Internet Codec Timothy B. Terriberry