Re: WG Adoption request for draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand

Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org> Mon, 10 December 2018 22:10 UTC

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From: Jeffrey Haas <jhaas@pfrc.org>
To: Greg Mirsky <gregimirsky@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: WG Adoption request for draft-mirsky-bfd-mpls-demand
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Greg,

Apologies for the long delay in reply.  

On Wed, Nov 21, 2018 at 02:40:50PM -0800, Greg Mirsky wrote:
> I respectfully ask to summarize the comments that were shared with you and
> to publish them to the WG without naming the authors.

Tersely:
- The document is not addressing fundamental issues.
- It is encumbered by IPR.
- Observed list traffic regarding question on the feature was not
  satisfactorily converging.

> And I have to admit that I don't understand your suggestion to use the
> Errata. The procedures to apply the Demand mode described in the draft are
> not in contradiction with RFC 5880, so the suggestion to use Errata
> surprised me.

I will respond on my own analysis in detail hopefully this week.  I am
awaiting the resolution of a particular bit of correspondence before
determining the tenor of my response.

-- Jeff