RE: PANET side-meeting
"Eric Osborne (eosborne)" <eosborne@cisco.com> Fri, 08 February 2013 14:53 UTC
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From: "Eric Osborne (eosborne)" <eosborne@cisco.com>
To: Mingui Zhang <zhangmingui@huawei.com>, Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>, "curtis@occnc.com" <curtis@occnc.com>
Subject: RE: PANET side-meeting
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Date: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 14:53:24 +0000
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Will this side meeting be in Orlando? I'm sceptical of some of the current approaches but am very interested in where they might go. eric > -----Original Message----- > From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of > Mingui Zhang > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 2:10 AM > To: Tony Li; curtis@occnc.com > Cc: Susan Hares; rtgwg@ietf.org > Subject: PANET side-meeting > > Hi Tony and Curtis, > > Let me retrospect some history to clear up the chaos floating around. > > On Feb 4th, I organized a conference call among a dozen of guys (from > operators, vendors and Universities) who are interested in PANET, in order to > prepare for a side meeting in IETF. There was a rough consensus that a side- > meeting is a good way to call for interest, coordination and contribution to > PANET. However, requests was _prematurely_ sent out afterwards, without > including all the effort from the conference attendees. I hope this email can get > us back on track. So I change its title. > > I believe the most efficient way for us is to play the game according to the rule > of IETF/IRTF. Therefore, we are trying to find a place to accommodate the side- > meeting. We should not delve into discussion of specific solutions before we > make clear the problem scope. A charter should be published, which will help > us figure out what is the problem we are trying to solve. Before that, let me > add some pointers of drafts from my side. I believe these drafts can also help > people to figure out the scope of PANET. > Power-Aware Networks (PANET): Problem Statement, > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-panet-problem-statement/ > Use Cases for Power-Aware Networks, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft- > zhang-panet-use-cases/ > Requirements for Power Aware Network, > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-panet-requirement/ > > On the 84th IETF rtgwg f2f meeting, there were two presentations relevant to > greening. I also list them as follows FYI. > A Framework and Requirements for Energy Aware Control Planes, > http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-00, [slides] > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-3.pptx > Power-aware Routing and Traffic Engineering: Requirements, Approaches, and > Issues, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-greennet/, [slides] > http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-4.pptx > > Thanks, > Mingui Zhang > Huawei Technologies > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf > >Of Tony Li > >Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:02 AM > >To: curtis@occnc.com > >Cc: Shankar Raman M J; rtgwg@ietf.org > >Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing > >community > > > > > >On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> wrote: > > > >> I don't think this is even material ready for IRTF consideration, but > >> that is up to Tony and IRTF to decide. > > > > > >As always, the IRTF does not require well-formed ideas as a > >pre-requisite for starting work. Instead, there needs to be a clear > >problem statement (i.e., a > >charter) and a sufficient group of serious researchers who are > >committed to following through in a committed manner. > > > >Note that it is, by definition, research. It is expected to have a > >non-trivial likelihood of failure. > > > >Regards, > >Tony > > > >_______________________________________________ > >rtgwg mailing list > >rtgwg@ietf.org > >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg > _______________________________________________ > rtgwg mailing list > rtgwg@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg
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- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
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- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji Venkat
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Mingui Zhang
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- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Shankar Raman
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Alia Atlas
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- PANET side-meeting Mingui Zhang
- GreenTE discussion Mingui Zhang
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Hannes Gredler
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Mingui Zhang
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Hannes Gredler
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Mingui Zhang
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… John E Drake
- RE: PANET side-meeting Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: PANET side-meeting Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: PANET side-meeting Curtis Villamizar
- Re: PANET side-meeting Tony Li
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… John E Drake
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… John E Drake
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- RE: PANET side-meeting Mingui Zhang
- Re: PANET side-meeting Curtis Villamizar
- RE: PANET side-meeting Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Thomas Nadeau
- RE: PANET side-meeting Mingui Zhang
- PANET drafts (was Re: PANET side-meeting) Curtis Villamizar
- RE: PANET side-meeting Susan Hares