PANET side-meeting
Mingui Zhang <zhangmingui@huawei.com> Fri, 08 February 2013 07:10 UTC
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From: Mingui Zhang <zhangmingui@huawei.com>
To: Tony Li <tony.li@tony.li>, "curtis@occnc.com" <curtis@occnc.com>
Subject: PANET side-meeting
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Hi Tony and Curtis, Let me retrospect some history to clear up the chaos floating around. On Feb 4th, I organized a conference call among a dozen of guys (from operators, vendors and Universities) who are interested in PANET, in order to prepare for a side meeting in IETF. There was a rough consensus that a side-meeting is a good way to call for interest, coordination and contribution to PANET. However, requests was _prematurely_ sent out afterwards, without including all the effort from the conference attendees. I hope this email can get us back on track. So I change its title. I believe the most efficient way for us is to play the game according to the rule of IETF/IRTF. Therefore, we are trying to find a place to accommodate the side-meeting. We should not delve into discussion of specific solutions before we make clear the problem scope. A charter should be published, which will help us figure out what is the problem we are trying to solve. Before that, let me add some pointers of drafts from my side. I believe these drafts can also help people to figure out the scope of PANET. Power-Aware Networks (PANET): Problem Statement, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-panet-problem-statement/ Use Cases for Power-Aware Networks, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-panet-use-cases/ Requirements for Power Aware Network, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-panet-requirement/ On the 84th IETF rtgwg f2f meeting, there were two presentations relevant to greening. I also list them as follows FYI. A Framework and Requirements for Energy Aware Control Planes, http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-00, [slides] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-3.pptx Power-aware Routing and Traffic Engineering: Requirements, Approaches, and Issues, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-greennet/, [slides] http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-4.pptx Thanks, Mingui Zhang Huawei Technologies >-----Original Message----- >From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of >Tony Li >Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:02 AM >To: curtis@occnc.com >Cc: Shankar Raman M J; rtgwg@ietf.org >Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing >community > > >On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> wrote: > >> I don't think this is even material ready for IRTF consideration, but >> that is up to Tony and IRTF to decide. > > >As always, the IRTF does not require well-formed ideas as a pre-requisite for >starting work. Instead, there needs to be a clear problem statement (i.e., a >charter) and a sufficient group of serious researchers who are committed to >following through in a committed manner. > >Note that it is, by definition, research. It is expected to have a non-trivial >likelihood of failure. > >Regards, >Tony > >_______________________________________________ >rtgwg mailing list >rtgwg@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/rtgwg
- Power aware networks : Comments requested from ro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji Venkat
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji Venkat
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji Venkat
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Mingui Zhang
- Fwd: Power aware networks : Comments requested fr… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Fwd: Power aware networks : Comments requested fr… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Fwd: Power aware networks : Comments requested fr… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Hannes Gredler
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Thomas Nadeau
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Acee Lindem
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Shankar Raman
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Alia Atlas
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- PANET side-meeting Mingui Zhang
- GreenTE discussion Mingui Zhang
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Hannes Gredler
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Mingui Zhang
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Hannes Gredler
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Mingui Zhang
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Balaji venkat Venkataswami
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… John E Drake
- RE: PANET side-meeting Eric Osborne (eosborne)
- Re: PANET side-meeting Alvaro Retana (aretana)
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: PANET side-meeting Curtis Villamizar
- Re: PANET side-meeting Tony Li
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… John E Drake
- RE: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… John E Drake
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Curtis Villamizar
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Tony Li
- RE: PANET side-meeting Mingui Zhang
- Re: PANET side-meeting Curtis Villamizar
- RE: PANET side-meeting Fedyk, Donald (Don)
- Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested fro… Thomas Nadeau
- RE: PANET side-meeting Mingui Zhang
- PANET drafts (was Re: PANET side-meeting) Curtis Villamizar
- RE: PANET side-meeting Susan Hares