Re: PANET side-meeting

No, there won't be a side meeting in Orlando.

However, we secured more time (than the regular 90 min) for rtgwg so that we can have a discussion there.

Alia and I will send out more details (objectives, ground rules, etc.) soon.

Thanks!

Alvaro.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 8, 2013, at 9:53 AM, "Eric Osborne (eosborne)" <eosborne@cisco.com> wrote:

> Will this side meeting be in Orlando?  I'm sceptical of some of the current approaches but am very interested in where they might go.
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> eric
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of
>> Mingui Zhang
>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 2:10 AM
>> To: Tony Li; curtis@occnc.com
>> Cc: Susan Hares; rtgwg@ietf.org
>> Subject: PANET side-meeting
>> 
>> Hi Tony and Curtis,
>> 
>> Let me retrospect some history to clear up the chaos floating around.
>> 
>> On Feb 4th, I organized a conference call among a dozen of guys (from
>> operators, vendors and Universities) who are interested in PANET, in order to
>> prepare for a side meeting in IETF. There was a rough consensus that a side-
>> meeting is a good way to call for interest, coordination and contribution to
>> PANET. However, requests was _prematurely_ sent out afterwards, without
>> including all the effort from the conference attendees. I hope this email can get
>> us back on track. So I change its title.
>> 
>> I believe the most efficient way for us is to play the game according to the rule
>> of IETF/IRTF. Therefore, we are trying to find a place to accommodate the side-
>> meeting. We should not delve into discussion of specific solutions before we
>> make clear the problem scope. A charter should be published, which will help
>> us figure out what is the problem we are trying to solve. Before that, let me
>> add some pointers of drafts from my side. I believe these drafts can also help
>> people to figure out the scope of PANET.
>> Power-Aware Networks (PANET): Problem Statement,
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-panet-problem-statement/
>> Use Cases for Power-Aware Networks, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-
>> zhang-panet-use-cases/
>> Requirements for Power Aware Network,
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-dong-panet-requirement/
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>> On the 84th IETF rtgwg f2f meeting, there were two presentations relevant to
>> greening. I also list them as follows FYI.
>> A Framework and Requirements for Energy Aware Control Planes,
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-retana-rtgwg-eacp-00, [slides]
>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-3.pptx
>> Power-aware Routing and Traffic Engineering: Requirements, Approaches, and
>> Issues, https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-zhang-greennet/, [slides]
>> http://www.ietf.org/proceedings/84/slides/slides-84-rtgwg-4.pptx
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> Mingui Zhang
>> Huawei Technologies
>> 
>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:rtgwg-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
>>> Of Tony Li
>>> Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 7:02 AM
>>> To: curtis@occnc.com
>>> Cc: Shankar Raman M J; rtgwg@ietf.org
>>> Subject: Re: Power aware networks : Comments requested from routing
>>> community
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2013, at 2:44 PM, Curtis Villamizar <curtis@occnc.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I don't think this is even material ready for IRTF consideration, but
>>>> that is up to Tony and IRTF to decide.
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>>> 
>>> As always, the IRTF does not require well-formed ideas as a
>>> pre-requisite for starting work.  Instead, there needs to be a clear
>>> problem statement (i.e., a
>>> charter) and a sufficient group of serious researchers who are
>>> committed to following through in a committed manner.
>>> 
>>> Note that it is, by definition, research.  It is expected to have a
>>> non-trivial likelihood of failure.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Tony
>>> 
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