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Re: [saag] post-X509 cryptographic identities

Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz> Wed, 12 February 2020 15:51 UTC

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From: Peter Gutmann <pgut001@cs.auckland.ac.nz>
To: Derek Atkins <derek@ihtfp.com>, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, "trutkowski@netmagic.com" <trutkowski@netmagic.com>
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Subject: Re: [saag] post-X509 cryptographic identities
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Tony Rutkowski <trutkowski.netmagic@gmail.com> writes:

>The earliest public description of PKI development and objectives can be
>found in the seminal paper presented by Ruth Nelson in 1987.  See Ruth
>Nelson, SDNS Services and Architecture, 10th National Computer Security
>Conference Proceedings, Sept 1987.

Uhh, that doesn't talk about PKI at all, it talks about SP3/SP4, key
agreement/transport, and the use of key management centres.  In particular
certs are issued by the KMC, which makes it more a type of server-assisted
crypto mechanism where you contact a server in order to communicate securely
with someone else, which was done by the Public File about a decade earlier.

Peter.

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