Re: [saag] post-X509 cryptographic identities

Nico Williams <nico@cryptonector.com> Fri, 14 February 2020 20:36 UTC

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Subject: Re: [saag] post-X509 cryptographic identities
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On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 09:51:32AM -0500, Tony Rutkowski wrote:
> On 2020-02-14 8:49 AM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> > And, the regulators were not paying attention, and they are now.
>
> That old DNS+DARPA internet universe has become vastly more complex with all
> kinds of "end point objects."
> 
> In the rapidly emerging 5G world of virtualised networks and alternative
> protocols, we are entering a new universe of alternative transport and
> network protocols and end point addresses.  It creates potentially a new
> world of competitive resolver platforms.  The likely winners will be those
> who know how to find the end points, run the scripts to create the virtual
> network to get to them, and provide user friendly, AI assisted interfaces
> like the Googles and Amazons of the world are already doing, as well as
> larger data centre operators.  DNS clearly will become ever more
> irrelevant.  Antitrust and national security factors will dominate.

Maybe.  I think it's the opposite.  We could easily see the use of
DNS(SEC) to bootstrap trust in environments where domainnames are not
very relevant -- domainnames can still be brands, and DNSSEC can be the
PKI that authenticates them.

Put another way: if any new thing will have legal obstacles, why bother?

Nico
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