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Re: [Sframe] Concluding SFRAME

youenn fablet <yfablet@apple.com> Thu, 06 October 2022 10:02 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Sframe] Concluding SFRAME
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Hi Murray,

Following on this discussion, you might have noticed active progress on the SFrame GitHub repository although there is no live discussion on the mailing list.
Editors plan to push for a new WD version (probably the current GitHub ToT) with improvements and clarifications in the next couple of weeks.

I am wondering whether it would be useful for this mailing list to be notified of what happens on the SFrame GitHub repository.
The WebRTC WG mailing list is doing this (see https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2022Sep/0099.html for a new issue example or https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-webrtc/2022Sep/0091.html for a weekly summary).

Thoughts?

Thanks,
	Y

> On 27 Jul 2022, at 17:37, Murray S. Kucherawy <superuser@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 11:11 AM Youenn Fablet <youenn@apple.com <mailto:youenn@apple.com>> wrote:
>> +1 to what Sergio said.
>> 
>> Also, there has been some progress on GitHub, admittedly very slow, to be able to finalise the first WG draft.
>> The latest commit was made 5 days ago.
>> I would expect a first WG draft to happen before the end of this summer.
> 
> Youenn,
> 
> The change made five days ago appears to be a merge of a bunch of automated and other miscellaneous metadata changes, not draft development.  The last change to the actual draft work I can see was in March, matching the last time there was any non-automatic list traffic.
> 
> What I don't see much evidence of is that there's likely to be sustained working group energy should this draft appear by the end of the summer.  The working group was chartered in November of 2020 but hasn't adopted anything yet.  I believe the chairs are feeling deflated, and I sympathize.
> 
> Do you believe we're going to see an active working group here in the near future?
> 
> -MSK
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