Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki-validation-01
"Carlos M. Martinez" <carlosm3011@gmail.com> Tue, 29 April 2014 17:21 UTC
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Subject: Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki-validation-01
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I support adoption of this draft and I second all of Andy's comments. I do believe that we need to be tolerant in the operation of the CA's as we move forward in adoption of origin validation in routers. Cheers! ~Carlos On 4/28/14, 5:14 PM, Andy Newton wrote: > I support the adoption of this draft, as it makes the operations of a CA less problematic. > > I also 100% disagree with Randy’s view that it adds complexity. To the contrary, it lessens complexity, aids flexibility and decreases fragility. > > -andy > > On Apr 25, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote: > >> i really hate to side with dr kent :) >> >> i am unsure of this is a useful work item. please explain how it is >> other than a complex (i.e. dangerous) patch to accommodate sloppy >> operational praactices by a CA. >> >> make the protocol complex and you are vulnerable forever. sloppy CA >> ops practices can always be remedied. so which is the worse problem? >> >> randy >> >> _______________________________________________ >> sidr mailing list >> sidr@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr > > _______________________________________________ > sidr mailing list > sidr@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sidr >
- [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki-val… Sandra Murphy
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Randy Bush
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Andy Newton
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… George Michaelson
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Geoff Huston
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Mark Kosters
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Tim Bruijnzeels
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Sofía Silva Berenguer
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Sriram, Kotikalapudi
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Rob Austein
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Terry Manderson
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Byron Ellacott
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Neriah Sossou
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Tom Harrison
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Karen Seo
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Matthew Lepinski
- Re: [sidr] WG adoption poll for draft-huston-rpki… Sandra Murphy