Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption& WGLC: draft-roach-sipcore-priority-00
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Subject: Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption& WGLC: draft-roach-sipcore-priority-00
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I fear you guys read a bit too much into the term "template". IANA typically wants to know what information a request for adding a new value into an existing registry should contain. This is called the template. As mentioned, here the required info is pretty obvious: a label and a reference to a document that contains the semantic. If you want to make it 100% clear add a sentence: "Registration requests to IANA must include a label (value for the priority header field) and a reference to a document that explains the semantic of that label." What is, however, missing from the IANA consideration is an indication whether you envision entries to be updated, deleted, or deprecated. I would write "Updating, deleting, or deprecating of entries in the registry is not envisioned." Ciao Hannes > -----Original Message----- > From: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On > Behalf Of ext Christer Holmberg > Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 1:51 PM > To: DRAGE, Keith (Keith); Paul Kyzivat; sipcore@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption& WGLC: draft-roach- > sipcore-priority-00 > > Hi, > > >Regarding 1), noone has yet responded as to why we need a template for > a document where registration requires IETF work. The template > >is in my view there to ensure all the information that is needed is > available for expert review. The document management of an internet > >draft means that if information is needed for review the next revision > can provide it. We only need a template if someone decides a different > >registration policy is needed. > > Fair enough. I hereby withdraw my request for a template :) > > Regards, > > Christer > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On > > Behalf Of Paul Kyzivat > > Sent: 28 November 2012 22:04 > > To: sipcore@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC: > > draft-roach- > > sipcore-priority-00 > > > > The WGLC and adoption deadline has now passed for > > draft-roach-sipcore-priority-00. Nine people (other than chairs and > > authors) made meaningful comments. > > > > I conclude there is consensus to adopt this draft as a wg document. > > > > Regarding WGLC, two notable issues were raised, and I don't yet see a > > clear consensus on those issues: > > > > - should there be a registration template? > > Christer advocates this, Keith opposes, Adam finds it unnecessary. > > > > - should this document also spell out the semantics of all the > priority > > values defined in 3261? (Currently it only defines "emergency".) > > Dan, James, and Roy in favor, Adam and I prefer not to do it *in > this > > document*. > > > > So, I will ask Adam to submit a wg draft version of this document, > > otherwise unchanged. > > > > While he is doing that, I would like to get a broader consensus on > the > > issues above. I'll post a separate question on each of those, to keep > > the discussions separate. > > > > Thanks, > > Paul > > > > On 11/12/12 3:49 PM, Paul Kyzivat wrote: > > > PLEASE RESPOND TO THIS MESSAGE > > > > > > This is a request to the sipcore wg to adopt the new individual > > > draft draft-roach-sipcore-priority-00, and a start of WGLC on that > > > document, to end on Sunday, November 25, 2012. (This is a trivial > > > doc to review, but people may be slow getting back to work after > the > > > meeting and there is a holiday coming in the US, so I'm giving more > > > time than I otherwise > > > would.) > > > > > > The reason for this is that the ecrit wg wants to define a new > value > > > for the Priority header field. RFC 3261 defines that header field > > > and an initial set of values. It also mentions the possibility of > extension. > > > But it failed to establish an IANA registry for that purpose, and > > > didn't otherwise define a process for extension. > > > > > > The intro to *this* document explains its purpose: > > > > > > This document defines a new IANA registry to keep track of the > > values > > > defined for the Session Initiation Protocol (SIP) "Priority" > header > > > field. This header field was defined in [RFC3261], section > 20.26. > > > It was clearly specified in a way that allows for the creation > > > of > > new > > > values beyond those originally specified; however, no registry > has > > > been established for it. > > > > > > Once that is done, ecrit will be able to make their extension in > > > accord with the registration procedures that have been defined. The > > > registration policy is "IETF Review", so discussion of the merits > of > > > that new value can be discussed as part of the review of *that* > > > document: draft-ietf-ecrit-psap-callback. > > > > > > REQUESTED ACTIONS: > > > > > > - indicate (ASAP) willingness, or not, for the sipcore wg to work > on > > > this problem, and adopt this draft as the basis for that work. > > > > > > - provide any comments you have on this document before the end of > > > the WGLC period (Friday, November 25.) > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > > > sipcore mailing list > > > sipcore@ietf.org > > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > sipcore mailing list > > sipcore@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore > _______________________________________________ > sipcore mailing list > sipcore@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/sipcore
- [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC: dra… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Dan Wing
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Adam Roach
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Adam Roach
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Laura Liess
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Olle E. Johansson
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Ben Campbell
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Dan Wing
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… James Polk
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Roy, Radhika R CIV (US)
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Adam Roach
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Ben Campbell
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Hannes Tschofenig
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Paul Kyzivat
- [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore-pri… Paul Kyzivat
- [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore-pri… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore… Andrew Allen
- Re: [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore… Michael Procter
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption & WGLC:… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption& WGLC: … Tschofenig, Hannes (NSN - FI/Espoo)
- Re: [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore… Paul Kyzivat
- Re: [sipcore] consensus call: draft-roach-sipcore… Christer Holmberg
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption& WGLC: … DRAGE, Keith (Keith)
- Re: [sipcore] Proposal: Call for adoption& WGLC: … Robert Sparks