Re: [sipcore] location-conveyance-03 just submitted

"Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com> Thu, 15 July 2010 23:39 UTC

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From: "Winterbottom, James" <James.Winterbottom@andrew.com>
To: Roger Marshall <RMarshall@telecomsys.com>, "Thomson, Martin" <Martin.Thomson@andrew.com>, "Peterson, Jon" <jon.peterson@neustar.biz>, "James M. Polk" <jmpolk@cisco.com>, "sipcore@ietf.org" <sipcore@ietf.org>
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 07:39:21 +0800
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I support Roger's proposal.



> -----Original Message-----
> From: sipcore-bounces@ietf.org [mailto:sipcore-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf
> Of Roger Marshall
> Sent: Friday, 16 July 2010 8:56 AM
> To: Thomson, Martin; Peterson, Jon; James M. Polk; sipcore@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [sipcore] location-conveyance-03 just submitted
> 
> All:
> My understanding of what this conveyance-03 draft now allows for is
> support of location in terms of:
> 
> LbyV if the geolocation header contains a cid URI which points to a PIDF-
> LO in the body
> Or
> LbyR if the geolocation header contains a location URI
> Or
> Both LbyV & LbyR _only_ if the PIDF-LO that the cid URI points to also
> includes an "associated" Location URI within.  This is what I assume is
> the composite case.
> 
> If this is how it's intended to work, how then would routing be
> accomplished if the intention was to route on location URI, not LbyV?
> 
> The geolocation header parameter value of "routing-allowed" can only be
> yes or no pointing to the whole PIDF-LO:
> 
> [from -03]
>    The practical implication is that when the "routing-allowed"
>    parameter is set to "no", if a cid:url is present in the SIP
>    request, intermediaries MUST NOT view the location (because it is
>    not for intermediaries to view), and if a location URI is present,
>    intermediaries MUST NOT dereference it.  UAs are allowed to view
>    location in the SIP request even when the "routing-allowed"
>    parameter is set to "no".  An LR MUST by default consider the
>    "routing-allowed" header parameter as set to "no", with no
>    exceptions, unless the header field value is set to "yes".
> 
> It seems to me that a better way is to allow geolocation URIs in numbers
> of 0, 1, or 2, so that you could elevate the Location URI up to the
> geolocation header and avoid all the difficulties of not knowing what
> location form was routable, plus escape the overhead of embedding it into
> an otherwise empty PIDF-LO when using LbyR exclusively.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> -roger marshall.
>