Re: [Slim] Open Issue #34 on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language

Gunnar Hellström <gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se> Thu, 27 April 2017 21:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [Slim] Open Issue #34 on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
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I agree that the Accept-Language syntax is good with all language tags 
for one media and direction is collected in one attribute. Also 
including the q-value. I suggest that we go this way.

That would also satisfy issue #39.

The use of the q-values enable a simple definition of pairing and 
relative priority between languages in different media, saying that 
pairing is indicated by setting exactly the same q-value for two 
languages in the same direction but different media.

One required and one complementary language in different media but the 
same direction can be indicated by the q-values being less than 0.1 apart.

True alternatives in different media but the same direction can be 
indicated by th q-values being 0.1 or more apart.

That can be introduced i an extension or from the beginning.

/Gunnar



Den 2017-04-25 kl. 20:25, skrev Bernard Aboba:
> Currently 10 Issues remain open from IETF Last Call:
> https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1
>
> These include:
> Ticket 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=ticket&asc=1&page=1> 
> Summary 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=summary&asc=1&page=1> 
> Component 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=component&asc=1&page=1> 
> 	Version 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=version&asc=1&page=1> 
> Milestone 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=milestone&asc=1&page=1> 
> 	Type 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=type&asc=1&page=1> 
> Owner 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=owner&asc=1&page=1> 
> Status 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=status&asc=1&page=1> 
> Created 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1?sort=created&asc=1&page=1>
> #27 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/27> 	The cases in the 
> "Silly states" section 5.4 are not all silly. 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/27> 
> negotiating-human-language 	2.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	defect 
> gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se <mailto:gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se> 	new 
> Mar 22, 2017
> #19 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/19> 	Use Media Type 
> registration template <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/19> 
> multilangcontent 	
> 	
> 	enhancement 	rfc.nik.tomkinson@gmail.com 
> <mailto:rfc.nik.tomkinson@gmail.com> 	assigned 	Aug 17, 2016
> #28 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/28> 	Examples section 5.5 
> requires expansion <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/28> 
> negotiating-human-language 	2.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	defect 
> rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org <mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org> 
> assigned 	Mar 22, 2017
> #32 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/32> 	Audio/Video 
> Coordination <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/32> 
> negotiating-human-language 	2.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	defect 
> rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org <mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org> 	new 
> Mar 22, 2017
> #34 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/34> 	Use the 
> Accept-Language syntax <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/34> 
> negotiating-human-language 	2.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	defect 
> rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org <mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org> 
> assigned 	Mar 22, 2017
> #35 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/35> 	Have an attribute to 
> abbreviate the bidirectionally-symmetric case 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/35> 
> negotiating-human-language 	2.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	defect 
> rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org <mailto:rg%2Bietf@randy.pensive.org> 
> assigned 	Mar 22, 2017
> #38 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/38> 	Routing out of scope 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/38> 
> negotiating-human-language 	1.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	defect 
> draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.org 
> <mailto:draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.org> 	new 	Apr 
> 25, 2017
> #39 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/39> 	Syntax Collapse 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/39> 
> negotiating-human-language 	1.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	defect 
> draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.org 
> <mailto:draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language@ietf.org> 	new 	Apr 
> 25, 2017
> #26 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/26> 	Make use of the 
> asterisk modifier on media level with session scope also for media 
> level purposes <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/26> 
> negotiating-human-language 	2.0 	milestone1 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/milestone/milestone1> 	enhancement 
> gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se <mailto:gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se> 	new 
> Mar 22, 2017
> #29 <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/29> 	Include more fields 
> for attribute registration from 4566bis 
> <https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/ticket/29>
>
>
>
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