Re: [Slim] Open Issues on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language

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From: Natasha Rooney <nrooney@gsma.com>
To: Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>
CC: Gunnar Hellström <gunnar.hellstrom@omnitor.se>, Bernard Aboba <bernard.aboba@gmail.com>, "slim@ietf.org" <slim@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [Slim] Open Issues on draft-ietf-slim-negotiating-human-language
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The last remaining item of Ticket 26 is asking for an explanation of the role of * only. Can we get this added and then close the ticket?

I’ll address 34 separately.

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On 29 May 2017, at 23:17, Randall Gellens <rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org<mailto:rg+ietf@randy.pensive.org>> wrote:

At 8:49 PM +0200 5/29/17, Gunnar Hellström wrote:

Den 2017-05-29 kl. 00:15, skrev Randall Gellens:
I think the edits so far address #19, #27, 28 so they can be closed. #38, #39 are addressed in -09 so I will post that and those can be closed.  I think #26, #29, #32, #34, #35 were not accepted.
This is my view:

#26 can be left non-accepted if #34 is accepted.

#26 can be done with an Informational draft that provides advice to implementers, as previously discussed.  #34 was discussed a long time ago and it was decided that we did not need to add complexity and that we would keep the more simple syntax.

 But if #34 is not accepted, we could need #26.
#29 is ok to not accept. All other aspects of the attribute registrations are solved.

#34: I have not seen anything about not accepting it, so I suggest to accept it.
#35 syntax for bidirectionally symmetric cases - will increase complexity - I would suggest to not accept it, but I cannot remember that we concluded that before.

#32 requires the two extensions about relative preference and simultaneity to be solved. We have not said that we would not accept #32.  I suggest that we accept it.

We've repeatedly decided to not add relative preferences (nor any coordination between media) in this draft.  This can all be done in a subsequent draft.

--Randy




Gunnar



--Randy

At 11:25 AM -0700 4/25/17, Bernard Aboba wrote:

 Currently 10 Issues remain open from IETF Last Call:

<https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1>https://trac.ietf.org/trac/slim/report/1


 These include:

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