RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering Architecture
"Reinaldo Penno" <rpenno@juniper.net> Sat, 27 May 2006 21:58 UTC
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I guess your translator to/from English must be broken. > -----Original Message----- > From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:55 PM > To: Reinaldo Penno > Cc: speermint@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering Architecture > > What question? > Richard > > ________________________________ > > Von: Reinaldo Penno [mailto:rpenno@juniper.net] > Gesendet: Sa 27.05.2006 23:46 > An: Stastny Richard > Cc: speermint@ietf.org > Betreff: RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering Architecture > > > > Apart form your outside-of-the-us rhetoric the questions remains. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 2:38 PM > > To: Reinaldo Penno > > Cc: speermint@ietf.org > > Subject: Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering Architecture > > > > ENUM issues should not be discussed in SPEERMINT, > > just some questions > > > > >Enum? When I dial (650) 453 2312, what is there to resolve _inside_ > the > > >wireless network that owns this number apart from the location of the > > >user? > > > > and _outside_? > > ENUM is about numbers like +16504532312 > > > > hello, we are talking E.164 numbers in ENUM, which is international > > numbers > > > > >Now, in the scenario where an external call (for example, a cingular > > >customer calling a Verizon customer (which owns an original t-mobile > > >number). How that works today? If you say ENUM I would stand > corrected > > >(and surprised), since LNP has been fully deployed since 2003. > > > > Cingular?Verizon? ... > > > > we are talking about a global solution here > > You are a bit US centric here, > > there is also some 200 other nations ozt there. > > > > I have no access to the US LNP database from e.g. Austria > > > > So you want to consider US national databases only in speermint? > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > Von: Reinaldo Penno [mailto:rpenno@juniper.net] > > Gesendet: Sa 27.05.2006 21:30 > > An: Stastny Richard; Otmar Lendl > > Cc: speermint@ietf.org > > Betreff: RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering Architecture > > > > > > > > Enum? When I dial (650) 453 2312, what is there to resolve _inside_ > the > > wireless network that owns this number apart from the location of the > > user? > > > > > > Now, in the scenario where an external call (for example, a cingular > > customer calling a Verizon customer (which owns an original t-mobile > > number). How that works today? If you say ENUM I would stand corrected > > (and surprised), since LNP has been fully deployed since 2003. > > > > When a user takes its number with them, I assumed this punches a whole > > in the telephone prefix hierarchy and a specific entry somewhere is > > needed. > > > > Regards, > > > > Reinaldo > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Stastny Richard [mailto:Richard.Stastny@oefeg.at] > > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 4:26 AM > > > To: Reinaldo Penno; Otmar Lendl > > > Cc: speermint@ietf.org > > > Subject: Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering > Architecture > > > > > > >I wonder how > > > >LNP is solved within wireless...A specific entry for each phone? > That > > > >would be crazy. > > > > > > Ahem, ENUM? > > > > > > I thought that is all what ENUM is about? > > > > > > Richard > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > > Von: Reinaldo Penno [mailto:rpenno@juniper.net] > > > Gesendet: Sa 27.05.2006 11:04 > > > An: Otmar Lendl; Patrick Melampy > > > Cc: Khan, Sohel Q [CTO]; speermint@ietf.org > > > Betreff: RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering > Architecture > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I believe the crux of the problem was missed. > > > > > > The issue is not really the number of domains. We have today some > > > 400.000.000 million hosts on the Internet. BGP peers to do not > > exchange > > > 400.000.000 million routes, they exchange in the low hundreds of > > > thousands. > > > > > > And why is that? (I guess you know where I'm getting at). That's > > because > > > IP addresses lend themselves very well to hierarchical deployment, > > > compression through prefix/CIDR usage and the like. DNS names are > > > strings and hence difficult to come up with a similar scheme. > > > > > > > > > I believe that if domains need to be exchanged between peers: > > > > > > 1 - Just a limited set would be exchanged and a "default layer 5 > > route" > > > (equivalent to a traditional default route) would be used. > > > > > > 2 - Compression schemes like *.company.com, regular expressions or > the > > > like would need to be used. Having specific routes to AORs would be > > > hairy (maybe for the eventual roaming or visiting user). I wonder > how > > > LNP is solved within wireless...A specific entry for each phone? > That > > > would be crazy. > > > > > > 3 - Some new scheme that will make somebody rich....until then.. > > > > > > I believe subscriptions would be used to exchange mostly "cost" and > > > policy information and some domains. I use cost here in the layer 3 > > > sense (number of calls, jitter, whatever). Cost would be an abstract > > > value or a more specific one (up to the administrator). > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Reinaldo > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Otmar Lendl [mailto:lendl@nic.at] > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 27, 2006 1:29 AM > > > > To: Patrick Melampy > > > > Cc: 'Khan, Sohel Q [CTO]'; speermint@ietf.org > > > > Subject: Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering > > Architecture > > > > > > > > On 2006/05/26 18:05, Patrick Melampy <PMelampy@acmepacket.com> > > wrote: > > > > > I suppose like in any distributed routing protocol, there are > some > > > > chicken > > > > > an egg issues. But consider the following. > > > > > > > > > > PREREQUISITES: > > > > > 1.) You know the destination DOMAIN from either ENUM or other > > means. > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > > This technique is very similar to TRIP, only its for DOMAINS and > > not > > > > partial > > > > > E.164 numbers. > > > > > > > > [...] > > > > > > > > > Obviously, the data set could get large, as the list of domains > > can > > > be > > > > > really big. There are some possibilities here... > > > > > > > > Let's do a quick estimate on the number of domains involved: > > > > > > > > Right now, operators usually give customers URIs of the form > > > > <number>@<providerdomain>. As long as this is the state of > affairs, > > > > we're fine as the number of providers is quite finite (a few > > > > thousands, perhaps). > > > > > > > > This is like the state of affairs with respect to email, anno > 1990. > > > > Back then customers started to notice that if they use their own > > > domain > > > > for email, then they can switch providers without having to change > > > > their email address. Thus a *lot* of people opted to use their > > > > own domain for email. > > > > > > > > My guess is that the same will happen to SIP. Once customers print > > > > their SIP uris on business cards, they will want to use their own > > > > domains. If providers won't support that feature then I suspect > that > > > > the regulators will step in and mandate an URI portability > solution > > > > just as they did in the PSTN with respect to numbers from number > > > blocks. > > > > (This could get really nasty protocol-wise, so I guess using > > customer- > > > > owned domains is the far better and likelier solution to the > porting > > > > question.) > > > > > > > > So: Anything we come up with here in SPEERMINT needs to cope with > a > > > > scenario where the use of customer domains in SIP URIs is just as > > > > widespread as it is for email. > > > > > > > > How many domains are used for email? That's hard to say. There are > > > > about 60 million gTLD domains and probably more than 20 ccTLD > ones. > > > > Assuming that only a tenth of that is used for email we're at > > > > 8 million domains. Given the exponential growth any system which > > > > doesn't scale to at least 10 million domains will be obsolete > before > > > > the ink is dry on the RFC. > > > > > > > > So what happens if we do some sort of BGP or TRIP with domains? > > > > > > > > Let's say we need at least 100 bytes of state information per > > domain. > > > > That makes a full routing table 1 GB worth of data. That also > means > > > > that a new border element needs to exchange that amount of data > > > > with its peers before it has learned the current state of the > > > > routing table. > > > > > > > > That is some serious amount of data. > > > > > > > > > 1.) Have notification point to a published document, and the > > > document > > > > lists > > > > > all of the relevant reachability in real time. Thus any change > to > > > the > > > > > document would generate a NOTIFICATION. > > > > > > > > + a download of up to 1 GB per peer. > > > > > > > > > 2.) User partial domains, broken up by the "dots". This may > allow > > > some > > > > > wildcarding to reduce the number of domains. For instance, a > > carrier > > > > like > > > > > Verizon may have many 100's of domains attached to it, and > version > > > is > > > > > willing to route and manage SIP traffic to any of them. The > NOTIFY > > > could > > > > > contain something like: Verizon.com or *.verizon.com to indicate > > > that > > > > any > > > > > domain in Verizon is reachable. > > > > > > > > That's helpful if a provider uses subdomains for internal > purposes, > > > > but that won't help you with customer owned domains. > > > > > > > > > This technique may work -- and fit nicely into an existing > > protocol. > > > All > > > > we > > > > > would need to do is define the data models (XML?) and or > documents > > > for > > > > > exchanging. > > > > > > > > I think this technique can work -- if you add an aggregation step > > > > before the routing scheme. > > > > > > > > Take another look at BGP: there you have the concept of an > > > > Autonomous System and not only that of prefixes. Maybe you need > > > > something similar. > > > > > > > > One approach to cope with hosted SIP domains could be to use the > > > > hostnames as found in SRV records. E.g. for settings like > > > > > > > > _sip._tcp.customer.domain IN SRV 10 10 5060 sip.provider.com > > > > > > > > run the routing algorithm on "sip.provider.com" instead > > > > of "customer.domain". > > > > > > > > Another option is to store some AS-equivalent in the customer > domain > > > > and have the routing algorithm operate on that. In my > domain-policy > > > > framework this could be expressed e.g. like > > > > > > > > customers.domain IN NAPTR 10 10 "u" "D2P+SIP:route-id" > > > > "!.*!urn:ietf:speermint:RID:1042!" . > > > > > > > > stating that this domain can be reached using the Speermint > routing > > > > logic by using the learned route to RoutingID 1042. > > > > > > > > Or, even better, use non-terminals, and thus refer to the ingress > > > > policy stored in the provider's domain: > > > > > > > > customers.domain IN NAPTR "" 10 10 "D2P+SIP" "" provider.com > > > > > > > > provider.com. IN NAPTR 10 10 "u" "D2P+SIP:route-id" > > > > "!.*!urn:ietf:speermint:RID:1042!" . > > > > > > > > (+ whatever other facts provider.com wants to announce about his > > > > reachability.) > > > > > > > > This combination of our ideas can indeed work and scale to an > > > > unlimited number of customer-owned domains. > > > > > > > > /ol > > > > -- > > > > < Otmar Lendl (lendl@nic.at) | nic.at Systems Engineer > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Speermint mailing list > > > > Speermint@ietf.org > > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speermint > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Speermint mailing list > > > Speermint@ietf.org > > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speermint _______________________________________________ Speermint mailing list Speermint@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/speermint
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- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Khan, Sohel Q [CTO]
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
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- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Andrew Newton
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Henry Sinnreich
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Patrick Melampy
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … David Meyer
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … David Meyer
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … James McEachern
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Patrick Melampy
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Nieminen Klaus
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … David Meyer
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Khan, Sohel Q [CTO]
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- VS: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Nieminen Klaus
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Francois D. Menard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Khan, Sohel Q [CTO]
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Henry Sinnreich
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Andrew Newton
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Livingood, Jason
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Livingood, Jason
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Malas, Daryl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Reinaldo Penno
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Pfautz, Penn L, GBLAM
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Malas, Daryl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Malas, Daryl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Malas, Daryl
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Patrick Melampy
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Brian Rosen
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Lee, Yiu
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Khan, Sohel Q [CTO]
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Duane
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Andrew Newton
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Richard Shockey
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Andrew Newton
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Andrew Newton
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Andrew Newton
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Uzelac, Adam
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Stastny Richard
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Uzelac, Adam
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Patrick Melampy
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Michael Hammer (mhammer)
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Otmar Lendl
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Uzelac, Adam
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Andrew Newton
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Livingood, Jason
- RE: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Livingood, Jason
- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Paul Kyzivat
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- Re: [Speermint] Updated Draft: SPEERMINT Peering … Paul Kyzivat