Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
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Date: Sun, 06 Dec 2015 17:34:51 +0800
From: Fei Song <fsong@bjtu.edu.cn>
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Subject: Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
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+1 -------------- Fei Song > > >On Fri, Dec 4, 2015, at 07:18 PM, Markus Unterwaditzer wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 11:28:48AM +0100, Hugo González Labrador wrote: >> > Of course, the remoteStorage is targeted to browsers, so syncing does >> > not make too much sense in this case. With the rise of Linux container >> > micro-service based architectures, the deployment of ?such highly >> > complex systems should become easier and faster. >> >> It is not exclusively targeted at browsers, although the browser's >> Origin-based >> security model is required for sane client identification. You can >> totally >> access remoteStorage accounts using desktop apps, a proof-of-concept >> exists at >> https://github.com/untitaker/vdirsyncer. >> > >That's great to hear. If this is achievable maybe will be good to >clarify this aspect in the spec. > >>From the abstract > > This draft describes a protocol by which client-side applications, > running inside a web browser, can communicate with a data storage > server that is hosted on a different domain name. This way, the > provider of a web application need not also play the role of data > storage provider. The protocol supports storing, retrieving, and > removing individual documents, as well as listing the contents of an > individual folder, and access control is based on bearer tokens. > > >it is difficult to infer that the spec is also targeted to non-web apps >as there are no mentions to server-side or desktop apps. > >As far as I know the OAuth authentication flow works in client-side web >applications, have you managed to use such mechanism in your non-web >project ? That would be a really interesting achievement. Maybe this is >the cause why remoteStorage does not mention non-web apps in their >abstract. > > >Summoning Michiel to clarify this aspect. > >> Synchronisation is a completely unrelated topic. I don't see how it's >> related >> to whether the protocol is targeted at browser applications, in either >> case >> offline sync has to work. And it does. >> >> I don't understand what you mean with "linux container micro-service >> based >> architectures", or how it is related to this discussion. >> > >That was said to give an example of how using Docker Containers can help >to manage non-monolithic applications. Of course, that is not directly >related to sync. > >> -- Markus >> >> > >> > Best, >> > >> > Hugo >> > >> > > Regards, Linhui >> > >> >> > >> >> > >>> Regards, Linhui >> > >>>> one from the CERN EOS project (management, disk and queue servers). >> > >>>> >> > >>>> The Phase I has implemented the ownCloud Sync Protocol and Phase II >> > >>>> will implement the SeaFile Sync Protocol. The choice of these >> > >>>> protocols among others is because they are really opposed to each >> > >>>> other in terms of syncing (delta vs non-delta, state-based vs log/event/git- >> > >>>> based sync …), so finding a common approach is more challenging. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Providing a base specification/architecture to measure the >> > >>>> feasibility of this draft is one of the objectives of the project. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> I believe that the work being done here and in ClawIO are >> > >>>> supplementary to each other and I think mutual collaboration could >> > >>>> be beneficial for both sides. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Also, if there is interest, the remoteStorage API can be added to >> > >>>> ClawIO. >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Best regards, >> > >>>> >> > >>>> Hugo Gonzalez Labrador >> > >>>> >> > >>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015, at 09:00 PM, storagesync-request@ietf.org >> > >>>> wrote: >> > >>>> > Send Storagesync mailing list submissions to >> > >>>> > storagesync@ietf.org >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >> > >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync or, via email, >> > >>>> > send a message with subject or body 'help' to? ? ? ?storagesync- >> > >>>> > request@ietf.org >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > You can reach the person managing the list at? ? ? ?storagesync- >> > >>>> > owner@ietf.org >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more >> > >>>> > specific than "Re: Contents of Storagesync digest..." Today's >> > >>>> > Topics: >> > >>>> > >> > >>>> >1. New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage? ? Internet-Draft >> > >>>> >available (Michiel de Jong)? ? 2. Re: New version of draft-dejong- >> > >>>> >remotestorage Internet-Draft? ? ? ?available (Gihan Dias)? ? 3. >> > >>>> >Re: New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet-Draft >> > >>>> >available (Fei Song) >> > >>>> > _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> > Storagesync mailing list Storagesync@ietf.org >> > >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync Email had 3 >> > >>>> > attachments: >> > >>>> > + [Storagesync] New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet- >> > >>>> > Draft available? ?2k (message/rfc822) >> > >>>> > + Re: [Storagesync] New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet- >> > >>>> > Draft available? ?1k (message/rfc822) >> > >>>> > + Re: [Storagesync] New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet- >> > >>>> > Draft available? ?2k (message/rfc822) >> > >>>> >> > >>>> _______________________________________________ >> > >>>> Storagesync mailing list Storagesync@ietf.org >> > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync >> > >> >> >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Storagesync mailing list >> > Storagesync@ietf.org >> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync >> > >_______________________________________________ >Storagesync mailing list >Storagesync@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… François Kooman
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… François Kooman
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… François Kooman
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Jakub Moscicki
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
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- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Sebastian Kippe
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- [Storagesync] Fw: Re: Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, … Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
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- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
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- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
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- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Jakub Moscicki
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Klaas Freitag
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Jakub Moscicki
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
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- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
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