Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
Hugo González Labrador <ietf@hugo.labkode.com> Fri, 04 December 2015 20:30 UTC
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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2015 21:30:21 +0100
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Cc: Linhui Sun <lh.sunlinh@gmail.com>, storagesync <storagesync@ietf.org>, Michiel de Jong <mbdejong@mozilla.com>
Subject: Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issue 1
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On Fri, Dec 4, 2015, at 07:18 PM, Markus Unterwaditzer wrote: > On Wed, Dec 02, 2015 at 11:28:48AM +0100, Hugo González Labrador wrote: > > Of course, the remoteStorage is targeted to browsers, so syncing does > > not make too much sense in this case. With the rise of Linux container > > micro-service based architectures, the deployment of such highly > > complex systems should become easier and faster. > > It is not exclusively targeted at browsers, although the browser's > Origin-based > security model is required for sane client identification. You can > totally > access remoteStorage accounts using desktop apps, a proof-of-concept > exists at > https://github.com/untitaker/vdirsyncer. > That's great to hear. If this is achievable maybe will be good to clarify this aspect in the spec. >From the abstract This draft describes a protocol by which client-side applications, running inside a web browser, can communicate with a data storage server that is hosted on a different domain name. This way, the provider of a web application need not also play the role of data storage provider. The protocol supports storing, retrieving, and removing individual documents, as well as listing the contents of an individual folder, and access control is based on bearer tokens. it is difficult to infer that the spec is also targeted to non-web apps as there are no mentions to server-side or desktop apps. As far as I know the OAuth authentication flow works in client-side web applications, have you managed to use such mechanism in your non-web project ? That would be a really interesting achievement. Maybe this is the cause why remoteStorage does not mention non-web apps in their abstract. Summoning Michiel to clarify this aspect. > Synchronisation is a completely unrelated topic. I don't see how it's > related > to whether the protocol is targeted at browser applications, in either > case > offline sync has to work. And it does. > > I don't understand what you mean with "linux container micro-service > based > architectures", or how it is related to this discussion. > That was said to give an example of how using Docker Containers can help to manage non-monolithic applications. Of course, that is not directly related to sync. > -- Markus > > > > > Best, > > > > Hugo > > > > > Regards, Linhui > > >> > > >> > > >>> Regards, Linhui > > >>>> one from the CERN EOS project (management, disk and queue servers). > > >>>> > > >>>> The Phase I has implemented the ownCloud Sync Protocol and Phase II > > >>>> will implement the SeaFile Sync Protocol. The choice of these > > >>>> protocols among others is because they are really opposed to each > > >>>> other in terms of syncing (delta vs non-delta, state-based vs log/event/git- > > >>>> based sync …), so finding a common approach is more challenging. > > >>>> > > >>>> Providing a base specification/architecture to measure the > > >>>> feasibility of this draft is one of the objectives of the project. > > >>>> > > >>>> I believe that the work being done here and in ClawIO are > > >>>> supplementary to each other and I think mutual collaboration could > > >>>> be beneficial for both sides. > > >>>> > > >>>> Also, if there is interest, the remoteStorage API can be added to > > >>>> ClawIO. > > >>>> > > >>>> Best regards, > > >>>> > > >>>> Hugo Gonzalez Labrador > > >>>> > > >>>> On Tue, Dec 1, 2015, at 09:00 PM, storagesync-request@ietf.org > > >>>> wrote: > > >>>> > Send Storagesync mailing list submissions to > > >>>> > storagesync@ietf.org > > >>>> > > > >>>> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync or, via email, > > >>>> > send a message with subject or body 'help' to storagesync- > > >>>> > request@ietf.org > > >>>> > > > >>>> > You can reach the person managing the list at storagesync- > > >>>> > owner@ietf.org > > >>>> > > > >>>> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more > > >>>> > specific than "Re: Contents of Storagesync digest..." Today's > > >>>> > Topics: > > >>>> > > > >>>> >1. New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet-Draft > > >>>> >available (Michiel de Jong) 2. Re: New version of draft-dejong- > > >>>> >remotestorage Internet-Draft available (Gihan Dias) 3. > > >>>> >Re: New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet-Draft > > >>>> >available (Fei Song) > > >>>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>>> > Storagesync mailing list Storagesync@ietf.org > > >>>> > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync Email had 3 > > >>>> > attachments: > > >>>> > + [Storagesync] New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet- > > >>>> > Draft available 2k (message/rfc822) > > >>>> > + Re: [Storagesync] New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet- > > >>>> > Draft available 1k (message/rfc822) > > >>>> > + Re: [Storagesync] New version of draft-dejong-remotestorage Internet- > > >>>> > Draft available 2k (message/rfc822) > > >>>> > > >>>> _______________________________________________ > > >>>> Storagesync mailing list Storagesync@ietf.org > > >>>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync > > >> > > > _______________________________________________ > > Storagesync mailing list > > Storagesync@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/storagesync >
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… fsong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… François Kooman
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Michiel de Jong
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… François Kooman
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… François Kooman
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Jakub Moscicki
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Hugo González Labrador
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Sebastian Kippe
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- [Storagesync] Fw: Re: Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, … Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- [Storagesync] 回复: Re: Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, … Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] 回复: Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, … Ted Lemon
- [Storagesync] 回复: Re: 回复: Storagesync Digest, Vol… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Markus Unterwaditzer
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Jakub Moscicki
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Marc Blanchet
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Klaas Freitag
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Jakub Moscicki
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Linhui Sun
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Jakub Moscicki
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song
- Re: [Storagesync] Storagesync Digest, Vol 5, Issu… Fei Song