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Re: [tcpm] Concluding WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-03

Bob Briscoe <ietf@bobbriscoe.net> Wed, 15 September 2021 13:03 UTC

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Subject: Re: [tcpm] Concluding WGLC for draft-ietf-tcpm-rfc8312bis-03
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Lars,

I went through all the issues you've created on github.
You will see I've been trying to help close off most of them in order to 
get this draft progressing.

I thought I should mention them all here, 'cos github doesn't seem to be 
notifying the tcpm list, like it does for QUIC issues and the quic list.


Bob

On 31/08/2021 12:10, Lars Eggert wrote:
> Hi Markku,
>
> On 2021-8-30, at 19:33, Markku Kojo <kojo=40cs.helsinki.fi@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> My sincere apologies as this comes very late in the process but I was not able to follow IETF mailing list at the time of WGLC nor during the recent weeks, and I couldn't attend IETF 111.
> it's always a bit disappointing to get a long review just when you thought you were done, but it will lead to a better document in the end - so thank you for your review!
>
> We've created a bunch of GitHub issues based on the issues you identified, and will work on resolutions there. Do you have a GitHub ID we can use to tag you?
>
>> 1. ECN
>>
>> a) The draft modifies RFC 3168 when ECE arrives and would result
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/83
>
>> b) RFC 8311 (sec 4.1) allows modifying the TCP-sender response to
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/84
>
>> c) ABE (RFC 8511) is currently the only experimental RFC to modify
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/85
>
>> 2. Slow-Start Overshoot w/ loss-based congestion conrol
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/86
>
>> 3. RACK (and QUIC)
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/87
>
>> 4. Fairness to AIMD congestion control
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/88
>
>> 5. Contribution to buffer bloat and slower convergence due to
>>    larger decrease factor
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/89
>
>> 6. Citing Experimental RFCs as if being a part of CUBIC
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/90
>
>> 7. Discussion
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/91
>
>> Sec 5.1
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/92
>
>> Sec 5.3
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/93
>
>> Sec 5.4
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/94
>
>> Sec 5.5
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/95
>
>> Sec 5.6
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/96
>
>> Sec 5.8
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/97
>
>> Sec 5.9
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/98
>
>> 8. The draft says in the intro that CUBIC is to be regarded as *current standard* for TCP
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/99
>
>> Misc comments:
>>
>> _epoch_start_: needs more accurate and consistent definition when the exactly the epoch
> ...
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/100
>
>> In many occassions:
>> "(upon receiving) an ACK" -> "(upon receiving) a new ACK"
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/101
>
>> On page 13:
> https://github.com/NTAP/rfc8312bis/issues/102
>
> Thanks,
> Lars
>
>
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