[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3

Jacob Appelbaum <jacob@appelbaum.net> Thu, 30 April 2026 15:37 UTC

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Subject: [TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3
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Hi Stephen,

On 4/28/26 23:24, Stephen Farrell wrote:
> 
> 
> On 28/04/2026 21:24, Sean Turner wrote:
>> Hi! The chairs have judged that there is consensus to progress this
>> I-D.
> 
> Well, that's a terse summary of a surprising conclusion. (And not
> even 'rough'?)

Indeed.

> 
> I think it'd be good to understand the chairs' reasoning as to why
> the various objections have been sufficiently deal with.
> 

We probably agree in that it would be positive to better understand the 
chairs' reasoning about objections as well as other factors that led to 
that mistake of process.

Given the unmerged change discovery post-consensus call and the 
subsequent discussion around it, vacating the consensus seems easier and 
faster from a procedural point of view.

Kind regards,
Jacob Appelbaum

> Cheers,
> S.
> 
> 
>> We will work with the authors to get a new version submitted
>> and we will get to work on the Shepherd Write-Up.
>>
>> The Chairs, Deirdre, Joe, and Sean
>>
>>> On Apr 9, 2026, at 15:30, Sean Turner <sean@sn3rd.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This is the working group last call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3.
>>> Please review draft-ietf-tls-mldsa [1] and reply to this thread
>>> indicating if you think it is ready for publication or not. If you
>>> do not think it is ready please indicate why. This call will end
>>> on April 23, 2026.
>>>
>>> REMINDER: If you have not done so recently, review the TLS WG's
>>> Mail List Procedures; see [2].
>>>
>>> The Chairs, Deirdre, Joe, and Sean
>>>
>>> [1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-tls-mldsa/ [2]
>>> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/
>>> ucdImHExlbOf4Q3BCG81gjzi2xE/
>>
>>
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