[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3

Yaroslav Rosomakho <yrosomakho@zscaler.com> Mon, 13 April 2026 23:51 UTC

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From: Yaroslav Rosomakho <yrosomakho@zscaler.com>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2026 00:49:04 +0100
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I think allocating codepoints to the zoo of ML-DSA composites would be
good, but I don't see a good reason to adopt the composites specification
in the TLS working group.

-yaroslav

On Tue, Apr 14, 2026 at 12:02 AM David Adrian <davadria@umich.edu> wrote:

> I am perfectly fine defining composite certificates however, I will go
> further than other David and say that Chrome cannot, should not, must not,
> and will not implement composite certificates in TLS.
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 3:51 PM Filippo Valsorda <filippo@ml.filippo.io>
> wrote:
>
>> We have no plans to implement composite certificates either.
>>
>> 2026-04-14 00:20 GMT+02:00 Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>:
>>
>> I do not think composite certs make sense for TLS.
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 12:33 PM David Benjamin <davidben@chromium.org>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 10:51 AM Viktor Dukhovni <
>> ietf-dane@dukhovni.org> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 04:30:34PM +0000, Andrei Popov wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Just to weigh in on this: I would support adoption of
>> >> > draft-reddy-tls-composite-mldsa. There is customer demand for
>> >> > composite certs, and I would like to get these implemented in the
>> >> > Windows TLS stack.
>> >>
>> >> I don't know what sort of interoperability you are expecting with
>> these,
>> >> I am strongly inclined to NOT implement any of the composite signature
>> >> algorithms, at least not in TLS.  It may be harder to fend off their
>> >> adoption in CMS, but ideally sit that out as well, until we either have
>> >> CRQCs and hybrids are pointless, or we don't have CRQCs and know why
>> >> we're never going to have them.
>> >
>> >
>> > We're also not planning to implement composite ML-DSA in TLS.
>> >
>> > David
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