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[TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3

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From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Muhammad Usama Sardar <muhammad_usama.sardar@tu-dresden.de>, Ilari Liusvaara <ilariliusvaara@welho.com>
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Re: Working Group Last Call for Use of ML-DSA in TLS 1.3
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I had sincerely proposed what I believe is a good middle ground to move on. WG is free to trash my proposal.

Okay then.  Your proposal is not a middle ground. It says that hybrids are better.

I still maintain that a document that defines A is not the place for an A compared-to B comparison. From the mailing list traffic, several other long-timers agree with that.

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