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[TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08 (Ends 2026-07-08)

Deirdre Connolly <durumcrustulum@gmail.com> Fri, 03 July 2026 19:21 UTC

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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2026 15:20:25 -0400
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I took my TLS document to the working group with TLS in the name ?

On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 3:16 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not the answer to the question.
>
> thanks,
> Rob
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 12:14 PM Deirdre Connolly <durumcrustulum@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I took it to the TLSWG first and there was consensus to adopt it
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 2:40 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 11:30 AM Deirdre Connolly <
>>> durumcrustulum@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> > > the credible cryptographic community supports both.
>>>>
>>>> > Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with that. Maybe the people that go to the
>>>> RSA conference do.
>>>>
>>>> I'm the author of this document and the coauthor of multiple hybrid KEM
>>>> documents including the peer-reviewed X-Wing— I support making both
>>>> available to users. I have never been to the RSA conference.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Why do you want it to be an IETF consensus document rather than an ISE
>>> submission?
>>>
>>> thanks,
>>> Rob
>>>
>>

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