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[TLS] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-tls-mlkem-08 (Ends 2026-07-08)

Deirdre Connolly <durumcrustulum@gmail.com> Fri, 03 July 2026 19:14 UTC

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Date: Fri, 03 Jul 2026 15:14:06 -0400
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I took it to the TLSWG first and there was consensus to adopt it

On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 2:40 PM Rob Sayre <sayrer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 3, 2026 at 11:30 AM Deirdre Connolly <durumcrustulum@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > > the credible cryptographic community supports both.
>>
>> > Hmm, I'm not sure I agree with that. Maybe the people that go to the
>> RSA conference do.
>>
>> I'm the author of this document and the coauthor of multiple hybrid KEM
>> documents including the peer-reviewed X-Wing— I support making both
>> available to users. I have never been to the RSA conference.
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> Why do you want it to be an IETF consensus document rather than an ISE
> submission?
>
> thanks,
> Rob
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