Re: [TLS] Proposed text for removing renegotiation

"Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com> Sat, 07 June 2014 15:12 UTC

Return-Path: <rsalz@akamai.com>
X-Original-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: tls@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3275B1A00D7 for <tls@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:12:09 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -2.551
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.551 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651] autolearn=ham
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id t1IUx6f6M6IL for <tls@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:12:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from prod-mail-xrelay06.akamai.com (prod-mail-xrelay06.akamai.com [96.6.114.98]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1C71A00C3 for <tls@ietf.org>; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 08:12:07 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from prod-mail-xrelay06.akamai.com (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by postfix.imss70 (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85BF016560B; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 15:12:00 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from prod-mail-relay08.akamai.com (prod-mail-relay08.akamai.com [172.27.22.71]) by prod-mail-xrelay06.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B243165603; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 15:12:00 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from usma1ex-cashub.kendall.corp.akamai.com (usma1ex-cashub5.kendall.corp.akamai.com [172.27.105.21]) by prod-mail-relay08.akamai.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 631D098058; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 15:12:00 +0000 (GMT)
Received: from USMBX1.msg.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.107.26]) by USMA1EX-CASHUB5.kendall.corp.akamai.com ([172.27.105.21]) with mapi; Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:12:00 -0400
From: "Salz, Rich" <rsalz@akamai.com>
To: Watson Ladd <watsonbladd@gmail.com>, "mrex@sap.com" <mrex@sap.com>
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2014 11:11:58 -0400
Thread-Topic: [TLS] Proposed text for removing renegotiation
Thread-Index: Ac+CYQ1Bdi7Yx8PpSdC8Rxe+c+7fCwAASk6g
Message-ID: <2A0EFB9C05D0164E98F19BB0AF3708C7130F434F76@USMBX1.msg.corp.akamai.com>
References: <CAFewVt65X1V6=A_HP_pcg=6nXNVFLxQmSsPB2rq1KvmGPRz+og@mail.gmail.com> <20140606223045.3B5AF1AD46@ld9781.wdf.sap.corp> <CACsn0cmcc6kXvOuqkZaDj7+QPdpY9qqQ58bs3s-JBGXdNJSZyw@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CACsn0cmcc6kXvOuqkZaDj7+QPdpY9qqQ58bs3s-JBGXdNJSZyw@mail.gmail.com>
Accept-Language: en-US
Content-Language: en-US
X-MS-Has-Attach:
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator:
acceptlanguage: en-US
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
MIME-Version: 1.0
Archived-At: http://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/tls/gha5-9iEy3dha1DMlRvCIyWefok
Cc: "tls@ietf.org" <tls@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [TLS] Proposed text for removing renegotiation
X-BeenThere: tls@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15
Precedence: list
List-Id: "This is the mailing list for the Transport Layer Security working group of the IETF." <tls.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/tls/>
List-Post: <mailto:tls@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/tls>, <mailto:tls-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2014 15:12:09 -0000

> What about this solution: separate TLS into a handshake and transport.

That's a very interesting idea.  The "HTTP/1.1 update" did that, turning RFC2616 into something like seven separate, albeit interlocked, RFC's.

	/r$

--  
Principal Security Engineer
Akamai Technologies, Cambridge, MA
IM: rsalz@jabber.me; Twitter: RichSalz