Re: [trill] New version : TRILL Smart Endnodes draft

Radia Perlman <radiaperlman@gmail.com> Thu, 10 January 2013 17:54 UTC

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Subject: Re: [trill] New version : TRILL Smart Endnodes draft
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The reason RB has to leave it encapsulated when forwarding to a smart
endnode is for the case where the smart endnode will be learning
(destination MAC, egress nickname) from received traffic.

Radia

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 9:42 AM, Linda Dunbar <linda.dunbar@huawei.com>wrote:

>  Radia, ****
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> a) When the packet reaches the egress RB I am presuming there will be a
> inner-MAC lookup to deliver the packet to the egress end-node.****
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> correct...when egress RB R has to look up the inner MAC address E, which
> it has to do anyway without smart endnodes, in order to choose which port
> to forward it on.  With smart endnodes, when R looks up MAC address E, it
> not only discovers which port to send it on, but that E is "smart", in
> which case R must leave the TRILL encapsulation****
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> [Linda] Why can’t the egress RB R simply decapsulates the TRILL header and
> forward the data frame towards the attached end nodes? Regardless if the DA
> is smart node or not?****
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> So RB processing is much simpler. It doesn’t have to attach different
> Ethernet header based on the inner DA. The smart node can receive Ethernet
> frames anyway (for communication within the directly attached LAN). ****
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> Thanks, Linda****
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