Re: [tsvwg] New Version Notification for draft-herbert-udp-space-hdr-01.txt

Joe Touch <touch@strayalpha.com> Thu, 11 July 2019 03:20 UTC

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> On Jul 10, 2019, at 6:29 PM, Tom Herbert <tom@quantonium.net> wrote:
> 
> nd you can require it if this keeps you up at night. The rest of us don’t need to be stuck with it forever. 
> 
> Yes, that's why checksum is in the fixed header. The benefits far outweigh the cost.

The cost is a lack of flexibility for 1 byte.

So it took the better part of a day and quite a few emails to conclude that the only remaining issue in this proposal is one that we’ve already discussed at length.

Joe