Re: Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench)

"DeSimone, Antonio" <Antonio.DeSimone@jhuapl.edu> Thu, 06 January 2011 14:38 UTC

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From: "DeSimone, Antonio" <Antonio.DeSimone@jhuapl.edu>
To: "bidulock@openss7.org" <bidulock@openss7.org>, Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com>
Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 09:40:28 -0500
Subject: Re: Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench)
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On 1/6/11 4:20 AM, "Brian F. G. Bidulock" <bidulock@openss7.org> wrote:

> Fred,
> 
> Fred Baker wrote:                      (Wed, 05 Jan 2011 23:35:09)
>> 
>> I think my view is clear. There is no operational problem. The
>> working group can decide what it wants to do.
>> 

I agree with Fred on this.  There is no operational problem, but there is
are minor spec problems.  At best that is bad form, but there are some
people who care about the specs.

The doc closes the identified spec problems, in particular by updating 792
and 1122, which contain statements inconsistent with running code and
now-accepted good practices.  I support this draft as a tsvwg work item.

> Well, I agree with you, Fred.  It is even more wasteful of the WG's
> time arguing whether it is wasteful of the WG's time

agree
 
> --brian