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Re: Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench)

Wesley Eddy <wes@mti-systems.com> Fri, 07 January 2011 02:49 UTC

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Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2011 21:51:04 -0500
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To: Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>, tsvwg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench)
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On 1/6/2011 1:42 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
>
>
> On 1/6/2011 10:34 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:
>>
>> Please be realistic.
>
> We all are. Realistically, an RFC officially deprecating a feature that
> is already recommended against, and is already not being used (far as
> any of us can tell) serves no *urgent* purpose.
>
> Yes, that means this issue might wait on the shelf for a long time. So
> what?
>


Realistically, if there isn't an RFC, 2 years from now someone will come 
and re-write Fernando's document and ask to have an RFC published and 
we'll waste more time on the same discussion, so I'm in favor of 
blasting this through the process and getting it published as long as 
there's rough consensus on it.  We publish plenty of similarly useless 
book-keeping RFCs without controversy.

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Wes Eddy
MTI Systems

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