Re: Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench)

Fernando Gont <fernando@gont.com.ar> Thu, 06 January 2011 07:29 UTC

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Subject: Re: Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench)
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On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 4:11 AM, Fred Baker <fred@cisco.com> wrote:
>> Please take a look at the document. Among other things, it deprecates
>> the *reaction* to ICMP SQ. -- Specs-wise, TCP is still required to
>> slow down upon receipt of an ICMP SQ.
>
> Are there any Source Quenches out there? Do you know of any equipment anywhere that is generating them?

Isn't one of the IETF's responsibilities to maintain its
specifications? Or has it become intentional for the specs to be
disconnected with the "running code"?

Thanks,
Fernando