Re: Deprecation of ICMP Source Quench messages (draft-gont-tsvwg-source-quench)

Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> Thu, 06 January 2011 18:15 UTC

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On 1/6/2011 10:09 AM, Fernando Gont wrote:
> Joe,
>
> It is "surprising" that you don't support this document (if I read your
> view correctly), as you were one of the motivators of this I-D. During
> the last few years, and in many opportunities, you have insisted that
> "we should formally deprecate ICMP SQ", etc.

Yes. Does that mean we need to create a separate doc to do it? No.

We can put it on queue for 1122-bis or 1812-bis, and *whenever* that 
happens should be sufficient for this particular issue.

I'm getting a bit tired of separate docs for each individual issue.

Joe