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Re: [urn] [apps-discuss] URNs are not URIs (another look at RFC 3986)

Tony Finch <dot@dotat.at> Tue, 22 April 2014 11:26 UTC

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Cc: Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de>, urn@ietf.org, General discussion of application-layer protocols <apps-discuss@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [urn] [apps-discuss] URNs are not URIs (another look at RFC 3986)
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Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 5:39 PM, Julian Reschke <julian.reschke@gmx.de> wrote:
> > On 2014-04-16 20:58, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote:
> >>
> >> The real difference is that a URL must contains a DNS name and a URN
> >> probably does not.
> >> ...
> >
> > Not true. It doesn't need to be a DNS name.
>
> Why bother with anything else?

You might want to use an mDNS name, or a TOR .onion name, etc.

Tony.
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