Re: [urn] [apps-discuss] URNs are not URIs (another look at RFC 3986)

Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com> Sat, 19 April 2014 02:34 UTC

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Subject: Re: [urn] [apps-discuss] URNs are not URIs (another look at RFC 3986)
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On Fri, Apr 18, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Mark Baker <distobj@acm.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker <hallam@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> We can certainly use URIs. The issue here is whether we claim it has
>> 'name like' semantics or 'locator like'.
>
> Whether it's a name or a locator is not an intrinsic property of the string,
> but depends solely upon the presence or absence of a local resolution
> mechanism for that string.
>
> A string that *you* might *today* call a "name", might already be a
> "locator" to somebody who's rigged a private resolution service. Ten years
> from now, that "name" might be a "locator" to all of us.


Which is exactly what I was saying.

For example, UPC code for a can of baked beans is a URN.

But if you go to Amazon you can use it as a locator, albeit mediated
via UPS rather than TCP/IP.

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