Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-bis - where to go from here
Thomas Herbst <therbst@silverspringnet.com> Wed, 02 March 2011 19:34 UTC
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-bis - where to go from here
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In the CPE subgroup discussion in Beijing I'd proposed a default of RIPng on. Ole preferred OSPF with all area 0. If we could pick one, I wouldn't really care which one it was. Picking at random would be more expedient than our normal process. tom On 3/2/11 8:27 AM, "Joel Jaeggli" <joelja@bogus.com> wrote: >buffalo aps that I was using a couple of years ago came with rip enabled >by default. That was to support the extension of the network using their >bridges or mesh APs. similarly I've seen OLSR deployed in a similar >fashion in both cases it was meant to be done without user intervention. > >When two devices are plugged together today they form an l2 adjacency, >why not an l3 one? > >joel > >On 3/2/11 8:14 AM, Fred Baker wrote: >> >> On Mar 2, 2011, at 7:57 AM, james woodyatt wrote: >> >>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 7:42 PM, Fred Baker wrote: >>>> On Mar 1, 2011, at 4:45 PM, james woodyatt wrote: >>>> >>>>> Understood. Do any of those organizations have a recommendation for >>>>>a suitable interior routing protocol for residential IPv6 networks? >>>>>I'm pretty sure IETF doesn't have one to recommend right now, and I'm >>>>>pessimistic that it will have one by next year to satisfy the plans >>>>>of the Smart Energy community. >>>> >>>> Well, one could discuss ZOSPF, or OSPFv3 with a default >>>>configuration, or RIPng, or IS-IS with a default configuration. Why >>>>would, picking one at random, RIPng be inappropriate? >>> >>> Unacceptable human interface burden, for starters. Beyond that, I >>>have no technical contributions I can make here. >> >> I dunno. On my Linksys router (which I don't use anymore, but there is >>one here at the house), there is a radio button that says "on" or "off" >>for RIP. If OSPF comes with a default configuration such as described in >>the MIB document, it can do the same; at the job I had before coming to >>Cisco (ACC), our configuration design required that when you turned a >>feature on it had to be operational, and from there configuration >>commands would change it, and so "SET OSPF ON" (ACC's equivalent of that >>radio button) had to result in a usable configuration. It worked quite >>well, actually. I don't see a radio button as "unacceptable UI burden"; >>a lot of people seem to be able to handle it. >> >> I would agree if we were asking people to navigate IOS CLI. That's a >>punishment, not a UI :-) >> _______________________________________________ >> v6ops mailing list >> v6ops@ietf.org >> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops >> > >_______________________________________________ >v6ops mailing list >v6ops@ietf.org >https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/v6ops
- [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-bis -… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Michael Newbery
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Sam Silvester
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Ole Troan
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Mark Smith
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Lee Howard
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Jack Bates
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Daniel Roesen
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Don Sturek
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Timothy Winters
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Hemant Singh (shemant)
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… james woodyatt
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Fred Baker
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Joel Jaeggli
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Thomas Herbst
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Thomas Herbst
- Re: [v6ops] draft-wbeebee-v6ops-ipv6-cpe-router-b… Fred Baker