Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update

GangChen <phdgang@gmail.com> Thu, 20 September 2012 15:12 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update
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Hello Med,

Thanks for the work. I read the draft.
In general, the requirements have been structured as Basic
Connectivity, Advanced and APIs & Applications
Just wondering to know what release of cellular host the requirements
are targeting?
What’s the consideration to frame the context of each section?
I have noticed that some basic IPv6 capability is mentioned in the
part of Advanced Requirements.  That seems to me should belong to the
Basic part.

More details are as following.

2.  Basic Connectivity Requirements
REQ#1,
REQ#2,
REQ#3 and REQ#4 were already specified in 3GPP.
Not sure it would add much discussions to the draft.

REQ#6 and REQ#7 should be combined IMHO, because it provides same
outcome solving the issues related to compatibility of IPv4
applications.

REQ#8: I don't understand the purpose of embed a DNS64 function.
Especially, the sentence of "This allows to be compatible with DNSSEC"

REQ#10 I guess I-D.ietf-behave-nat64-discovery-heuristic should be
ranked as first priority compared to
I-D.boucadair-pcp-nat64-prefix64-option

REQ#11: Preferring native IPv6 doesn't always achieve good effect. It
may cause additional charge in some cases. Please refer to
http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mif-happy-eyeballs-extension-00#page-3
case 4 for further information

One additional requirement maybe worth to add for the completeness:

REQ#XX The cellular device SHOULD embed a BIH function [RFC6535]
facilitating the communication between IPv4 application and IPv6
server

2.1.  WiFi Connectivity

It may be complementary to add one additional requirement, like

REQ#XX Prefix Delegation capabilities [RFC3633] MUST be supported on
the Wi-Fi interface.


3.  Advanced Requirements

 REQ#16,
 REQ#17,
 REQ#18,
 REQ#19 and REQ#20 may be proper to be shifted to "2. Basic
Connectivity Requirements", since those features are basic IPv6
capability

REQ#22:  it maybe proper to change the *SHOULD* to *MAY*

Best Regards

Gang

2012/9/20, mohamed.boucadair@orange.com <mohamed.boucadair@orange.com>:
> Dear all,
>
> We submitted this new I-D.
>
> Review and comments are more than welcome.
>
> Cheers,
> Med
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> Objet : I-D Action:
> draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update-00.txt
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> A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts
> directories.
>
>
> 	Title           : Internet Protocol Version 6 (IPv6) for Cellular Hosts
> 	Author(s)       : David Binet
>                           Mohamed Boucadair
> 	Filename        :
> draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update-00.txt
> 	Pages           : 14
> 	Date            : 2012-09-19
>
> Abstract:
>    This document lists a set of IPv6-related requirements to be
>    supported by cellular hosts.
>
>    This document updates RFC3316.
>
>
>
> The IETF datatracker status page for this draft is:
> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update
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> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-binet-v6ops-cellular-host-reqs-rfc3316update-00
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