Re: [v6ops] Comments to draft-mlevy-v6ops-auto-v6-allocation-per-asn

Nick Hilliard <nick@inex.ie> Thu, 21 February 2013 17:33 UTC

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Subject: Re: [v6ops] Comments to draft-mlevy-v6ops-auto-v6-allocation-per-asn
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On 21/02/2013 17:08, Dino Farinacci wrote:
> It is a real user/customer requirement. IETF should not tell users how
> to assign their addresses. Just allow part of the address space
> available so they can do what they want.

if the car makers want a new VIN bin, then they can have it.  The only
requirement for creating a new bin is a common agreement between them that
their chosen range of integers or symbols means something to them.  Whether
or not this range is a subset of an ietf-assigned ipv6 subnet is completely
irrelevant.

>From the IETF's point of view, if the car makers come to them and ask them
for a range of numbers for car VINs, my reaction would be "wut?"

Nick