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Re: [v6ops] IPv6 Extension Headers in the Real World

"Metzler, Dan J" <dan-metzler@uiowa.edu> Thu, 02 October 2014 11:51 UTC

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From: "Metzler, Dan J" <dan-metzler@uiowa.edu>
To: Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo@google.com>, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu>
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I would think that if it’s much easier to agree on “here’s what I saw”, then it would work better if the first draft includes the problem statement, and then later drafts flesh out “here’s what to do about it”.  Even in practice, simply agreeing on the nature of the problem, is of limited value without the knowledge of solutions, or even the knowledge that a solution may not exist yet.  Even if there are multiple solutions to a problem, it is always important to state the problem that each solution is designed to solve when presenting any solution.

From: v6ops [mailto:v6ops-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Lorenzo Colitti
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6 Extension Headers in the Real World

On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu<mailto:touch@isi.edu>> wrote:
I don't see "here's what I saw" and "here's what to do about it" as
separately useful.

In theory having separate documents is useless.

In practice having separate documents is extremely useful, because it turns out that it's much easier to agree on "here's what I saw" than on "here's what to do about it". In a consensus-oriented body like the IETF, there's no output until people agree, so attempting to document both a problem and a solution at the same time can take months or even years longer than documenting the two separately.

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