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Re: [v6ops] IPv6 Extension Headers in the Real World

Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us> Thu, 02 October 2014 06:11 UTC

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On 10/1/14 3:52 PM, Joe Touch wrote:
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> On 10/1/2014 3:44 PM, Tim Chown wrote:
>> I'd argue a separate  'problem statement' is a better approach.
>
> If the IETF were developing a new protocol, yes.
>
> But in this case we have operational observations and operational
> recommendations. The two are tightly coupled; the latter makes no sense
> without the former anyway.
>
> I don't see "here's what I saw" and "here's what to do about it" as
> separately useful.

+1

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