Re: [v6ops] IPv6 Extension Headers in the Real World

Jen Linkova <furry@google.com> Wed, 01 October 2014 23:03 UTC

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From: Jen Linkova <furry@google.com>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 2014 01:02:43 +0200
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Subject: Re: [v6ops] IPv6 Extension Headers in the Real World
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On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 12:35 AM, Joe Touch <touch@isi.edu> wrote:
> There is no need for multiple documents on this topic. This information
> should be rolled into draft-gont-opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-02

I agree that those two documents d overlap - especially in the section
of ipv6-ehs-in-real-world  which discusses the security implication of
filtering (I believe it's a very good idea to add either such section
or a reference to this draft to opsec-ipv6-eh-filtering-02). I'm not
so sure if both documents should be merged as one is documenting the
operational experience and the current situation while another one is
providing some recommendations.

>
> On 9/29/2014 9:50 PM, Fernando Gont wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>> Earlier in September we published a revision of our I-D "IPv6 Extension
>> Headers in the Real World"
>> (<https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-gont-v6ops-ipv6-ehs-in-real-world>).
>>
>> At this point in time, we're interested in knowing whether our I-D is of
>> value for the IPv6 ops community, such that we can decide whether to
>> continue working/improving it. Additionally, if there's anything you
>> think we've missed in the document, we'd like to hear from you.
>>
>> Overall, our I-D is meant to provide a reality-check with respect to the
>> issues surrounding IPv6 Extension Headers and their use on the public
>> Internet. More specifically, its goals are:
>>
>> 1) Provide data regarding support of IPv6 EHs in the real world.
>>
>>     This is interesting data to refer people to (e.g., folks
>>     developing protocols) regarding the extent to which IPv6 EHs
>>     are usable on the public Internet (at least with web, mail, and
>>     name servers).
>>
>>
>> 2) Summarize the issues associated with IPv6 EHs (performance, security,
>> etc.)
>>
>>     This is of use for folks concerned with the issues surrounding
>>     IPv6 EHs, and covers practical issues.
>>
>>
>> 3) Summarizes the implications of the aforementioned filtering.
>>
>>     For example, if you're designing a protocol that is meant to
>>     work on the public Internet, you may want to provide some fall-back
>>     mechanism that does not employ IPv6 EHs.
>>
>>     Yet another of the implications is the security issue that has
>>     been discussed on-list: if e.g. IPv6 fragments are dropped and you
>>     can be tricked into generating them, you may be subject to a DoS
>>     attack.
>>
>>
>> 4) Flag possible further work
>>
>>    Here we try to flag areas where the further work may be needed,
>>    such as adding fall-back mechanisms to some existing protocols,
>>    or avoiding the use of IPv6 EHs where possible.
>>
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Best regards,
>>



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Jen Linkova a.k.a Furry
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