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Re: IETF 109 Preliminary Agenda

Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net> Sun, 18 October 2020 23:47 UTC

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Subject: Re: IETF 109 Preliminary Agenda
To: Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>, manycouches@ietf.org
Cc: Martin Duke <martin.h.duke@gmail.com>, Working Group Chairs <wgchairs@ietf.org>
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From: Lou Berger <lberger@labn.net>
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On 10/18/2020 5:46 PM, Michael Richardson wrote:
> Are you saying that the time zone for the meeting would be driven by the who
> has registered rather than what locale it was supposed to be in?
Close.  I was saying use an average of recent (3-meetings) past attendees.
> Or are you limiting it to EU attendees, since it was to be in Prague?

in trying to preserve 1-1-1, yes, I was saying look on at the average of 
EU attendees for 110.  For 109 - it would have been the Asia attendees...

This was a half thought out example of what *could* be done if we 
consider ourselves as untethered from physical meeting locations. This 
is probably a discussion for the shmoo wg...

Lou

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