Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering incorrect
John C Klensin <john+xml@jck.com> Mon, 29 May 2017 23:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering incorrect
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--On Monday, May 29, 2017 3:07 PM -0700 Henrik wrote: > And no matter how opaque the DOI series identifiers are in > general, there's still nothing that prevents the RFC Editor > from _having_ a defined mapping from RFC numbers to DOI and > vice versa, if a decision is made that this would be helpful, > right? Sure. But it may actually not be a good idea. Most of the reasons were discussed at length when DOIs were first being assigned to RFCs but there is an additional complication now. As we move into a somewhat ambiguous state about authoritative versions of RFCs, and different representations contain slightly different information, or at least organizations of the information, it is not at all clear that it is desirable for the same DOI to be assigned to and used with all of the different forms. I'm not suggesting that whatever is being done should necessarily be changed today but, as things evolve, I'd rather see RFC Editor-assigned DOIs treated as if they were opaque, giving the RFC Editor the option of changing whatever rules they use going forward (including potentially assigning different DOIs to different presentations of an RFC), rather than freezing a specific mapping or set of rules into an algorithm that is then embedded in other systems. If something algorithmically bound to "an RFC", rather than supposedly to a specific "digital object" is needed, consider using urn:ietf:rfc:NNNN. The two actually can, and probably do, have different semantics and constraints. I will now return to quietly lurking. john
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- Re: [xml2rfc] [django-project] RFC Bibtex format … Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] [django-project] RFC Bibtex format … Robert Sparks
- Re: [xml2rfc] [django-project] RFC Bibtex format … William Atwood
- Re: [xml2rfc] [django-project] RFC Bibtex format … Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [xml2rfc] [django-project] RFC Bibtex format … Stefan Viergutz
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Matthew Kerwin
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John C Klensin
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Dale R. Worley
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Henrik Levkowetz
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John R Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… HANSEN, TONY L
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… John Levine
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Sandy Ginoza
- Re: [xml2rfc] RFC Bibtex format doi numbering inc… Julian Reschke