Re: [Acme] Considerations about ACME BoF

Yaron Sheffer <yaronf.ietf@gmail.com> Tue, 31 March 2015 15:50 UTC

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Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2015 08:03:47 -0700
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Subject: Re: [Acme] Considerations about ACME BoF
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Hi Scott,

On 03/31/2015 01:22 AM, Scott Rea wrote:
> G'day Yaron,
>
> I will make 2 brief observations:
>
> a) Max and I actually proposed some usability focused work around TLS
> certs to the PKIX WG about 6 or 7 years ago, when PKIX was still going
> strong, and we were told that usability is not the purvey of IETF, its
> purely bits on the wire. So when did IETF morph from bits on the wire to
> now include usability?
>
The IETF works on bits on the wire that are necessary to achieve 
business goals. And those goals certainly include usability.

> b) Getting a server certificate for a cloud server within seconds, and
> with no manual intervention is possible today with a little scripting on
> the server and an appropriate API from one of the existing CAs. If your
> current provider cannot do that for you, then I suggest you shop around
> a little.

I tried that and failed, I guess I should try some more. But anyway, as 
a customer I would like a standard interface so that this "little 
scripting" doesn't lock me into a single vendor.

>
> Regards,
> _Scott
>