Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification for draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns-01.txt
Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org> Wed, 17 March 2021 02:58 UTC
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Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2021 02:58:01 +0000
From: Paul Vixie <paul@redbarn.org>
To: Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com>
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Subject: Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification for draft-reddy-add-enterprise-split-dns-01.txt
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On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 09:22:53AM -0700, Eric Rescorla wrote: > I agree with Ben here. This seems out of scope. > > -Ekr eric, can you give an example of some feature which could be proposed that you'd find in-scope even though it lacked full throated unalloyed amplification of the tenets and goals of RFCs 8890, 7624, and 7258? i ask, because ADD signifies a controversial sea-change to the way DNS has always been treated, and if some additional signaling would reduce that controversy for a class of on-path actors who are not third parties, then that signaling would be in-scope. i'd hate to think that anyone here had a political agenda which influenced their technical recommendations. generally speaking, a modern RFC protocol says "if you want to do _this_, here's a way to do it interoperably." while "prevent interference by on-path actors" is not a form of interopability, i think that "publish and consume machine-readable RDNS policy" would be. as ben mentioned up-thread, one salient use of such signaling would be better error messages toward end-systems when their prefered RDNS access method does not work. the alternative is silent failure (bad engineering). -- Paul Vixie
- [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-red… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Tommy Pauly
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Andrew Campling
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Eric Rescorla
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Eliot Lear
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Victor Kuarsingh
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Bill Woodcock
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [Add] [EXT] Re: New Version Notification for … Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Ben Schwartz
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Tommy Jensen
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Deen, Glenn (NBCUniversal)
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Paul Vixie
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… tirumal reddy
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… Paul Wouters
- Re: [Add] New Version Notification for draft-redd… Andrew Campling
- Re: [Add] [EXTERNAL] Re: New Version Notification… tirumal reddy